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		<title>By: Money Hacks Carnival #39 : Moolanomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Hacks Carnival #39 : Moolanomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I sincerely hope you’re kidding."

I expected that to be obvious but this is the first comment which is suggesting it. Which probably means it can't be entirely a joke.

There is at least one serious thought in the post - I think people should concentrate more on providing value than on frugality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I sincerely hope you’re kidding.&#8221;</p>
<p>I expected that to be obvious but this is the first comment which is suggesting it. Which probably means it can&#8217;t be entirely a joke.</p>
<p>There is at least one serious thought in the post - I think people should concentrate more on providing value than on frugality.</p>
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		<title>By: Faran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the story until it became a little stupid, i think the exact part was when he decided to live in his van..
The potatoes and rice thing was kinda stupid too..

"the blogs" don't tell you to live like a hobo, they do tell you to be conscious of your spending and not going to the movies and not eating out are good life strategies, not just a way to save money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the story until it became a little stupid, i think the exact part was when he decided to live in his van..<br />
The potatoes and rice thing was kinda stupid too..</p>
<p>&#8220;the blogs&#8221; don&#8217;t tell you to live like a hobo, they do tell you to be conscious of your spending and not going to the movies and not eating out are good life strategies, not just a way to save money</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Joe having enough money to not default on his loans during a recession totally did screw the banks.  He probably should have taken out a risky loan he couldn't afford without doing research like his neighbors right?

I sincerely hope you're kidding.  Pushing consumerism on people is pretty disgusting.  Living within their means and not defaulting on debt shouldn't be cause to make someone feel guilty.  It was a lack of personal and corporate responsibility that caused the credit crunch, and a shark investor should  be good enough at fiscal math to see that obvious.

I hope you are kidding.  Otherwise I feel quite sorry for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Joe having enough money to not default on his loans during a recession totally did screw the banks.  He probably should have taken out a risky loan he couldn&#8217;t afford without doing research like his neighbors right?</p>
<p>I sincerely hope you&#8217;re kidding.  Pushing consumerism on people is pretty disgusting.  Living within their means and not defaulting on debt shouldn&#8217;t be cause to make someone feel guilty.  It was a lack of personal and corporate responsibility that caused the credit crunch, and a shark investor should  be good enough at fiscal math to see that obvious.</p>
<p>I hope you are kidding.  Otherwise I feel quite sorry for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Twenty Something Finances - Thanksgiving Hangover Edition &#8212; Broke Grad Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Twenty Something Finances - Thanksgiving Hangover Edition &#8212; Broke Grad Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the people who kept spending because it was "patriotic".  They spend more than they could afford.  They got in debt instead of growing their savings.  

Then when things went south (i.e. when gas and other prices went up or their hours were cut at work or they lost their job or they had medical bills to pay), they couldn't handle the bills anymore and they didn't have an emergency fund to sustain them through troubled times.  So, they went into bankruptcy and/or foreclosure.  

Foreclosures put a strain on the banks and investors, and flooded the market with cheap houses, lowering the value of other homes for sale and hurting the equity of other homes.  People who needed to sell their homes couldn't. 

Bankruptcy also hurt the businesses that they owed money to -- businesses that then decided that they were going to be stingier with credit, making it harder for other businesses to take out loans to pay their workers before profits started rolling in.  So they fired more people and the cycle continued.   

Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Frugal had an emergency fund because they spent within their means.  When Mr. Frugal lost his job, they were able to weather the storm until he found another one.  They tightened their purse strings a little until he had a new job lined up, but overall their spending was steady because they were used to counting every penny.  

In fact, they might have even spent a little bit more than usual, taking advantage of genuine bargains and putting some money into the stock market knowing that by the time they need that money again the market will have recovered and they'll have made more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the people who kept spending because it was &#8220;patriotic&#8221;.  They spend more than they could afford.  They got in debt instead of growing their savings.  </p>
<p>Then when things went south (i.e. when gas and other prices went up or their hours were cut at work or they lost their job or they had medical bills to pay), they couldn&#8217;t handle the bills anymore and they didn&#8217;t have an emergency fund to sustain them through troubled times.  So, they went into bankruptcy and/or foreclosure.  </p>
<p>Foreclosures put a strain on the banks and investors, and flooded the market with cheap houses, lowering the value of other homes for sale and hurting the equity of other homes.  People who needed to sell their homes couldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Bankruptcy also hurt the businesses that they owed money to &#8212; businesses that then decided that they were going to be stingier with credit, making it harder for other businesses to take out loans to pay their workers before profits started rolling in.  So they fired more people and the cycle continued.   </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Frugal had an emergency fund because they spent within their means.  When Mr. Frugal lost his job, they were able to weather the storm until he found another one.  They tightened their purse strings a little until he had a new job lined up, but overall their spending was steady because they were used to counting every penny.  </p>
<p>In fact, they might have even spent a little bit more than usual, taking advantage of genuine bargains and putting some money into the stock market knowing that by the time they need that money again the market will have recovered and they&#8217;ll have made more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Wrapup and Roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Wrapup and Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ms. Smarty Pants Know It All &#187; Recommended Blog Articles for the Week of November 24</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Smarty Pants Know It All &#187; Recommended Blog Articles for the Week of November 24</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Intelligent Speculator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Investment Talking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intelligent Speculator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Investment Talking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jIM</title>
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		<dc:creator>jIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money saved is invested so banks and other institutions can lend it.

If I save and put money into a 100k CD, my bank can then lend that money out to another person which is willing to take more risk than me.  That risk grows the economy and creates opportunity.

If I send that $100k to vanguard or T rowe price, that broker will invest the money into a company and that company can choose how to use my 100k to further expand its business to
a) make them more money
which
b) eventually makes me more money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money saved is invested so banks and other institutions can lend it.</p>
<p>If I save and put money into a 100k CD, my bank can then lend that money out to another person which is willing to take more risk than me.  That risk grows the economy and creates opportunity.</p>
<p>If I send that $100k to vanguard or T rowe price, that broker will invest the money into a company and that company can choose how to use my 100k to further expand its business to<br />
a) make them more money<br />
which<br />
b) eventually makes me more money</p>
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